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28 Thursday Aug 2025

Posted by abc in Gameplay, General Thoughts, Priest

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mop classic, mop priest, priest classic mop, priest help, spirit shell

First, let me say how weird it is to be playing MoP again – it’s kinda the same, but not really?

Tl;Dr: So, disc has been nerfed a lot but I frankly don’t think it’s an issue unless you’re pushing cutting edge content.

Sidenote: we’re painful in arena and I do think we need a hot fix to address how rough it is for us ATM in pvp, specifically arenas.

Anyways…

I somehow stumbled into raid leading a group on classic. We’re not amazing, but we’re not terrible. We’re currently still on normals, but damn have I been proud at the group killing bosses well – 1-shot spirit kings, 2-shot final MSV boss. We were waiting for a tank and tried out the first boss of HoF and got it to 15% with 9 people. Grabbed another DPS and downed it quickly.

So let’s talk about disc nerfs. I personally think they’ve been overblown because what we excel at is mitigation. Who cares about throughput right now?

We eat the damage before it arrives – I’ve been arranging a lot of pug world boss fights, beyond my own weekly lockout, and it’s amazing practice for spirit shell due to stomp timing. We run as many healers as we can but I am basically doing 50% of the healing for Garelon due to spirit shell.

He’s great practice.

So back to MSV and HoF:

To maximize spirit shell absorbs, you want to be using inner focus and all of your archangel stacks. This will make your next prayer of healing incredibly strong and build absorbs.

Actually timing effects well will mitigate damage your team is taking, so your healing numbers will then shoot up. Avoid any team focused on these sort of numbers – you’re just doing absorbs. Someone like a resto shaman will pair well and shine because their mastery will pop off (they’ll heal more when people are low health).

Could disc be better? Definitely.

Is disc as bad as people are claiming? Imo, maybe they aren’t playing disc as it’s intended to be played…

It’s all about the absorbs…

Spirit shelling your way through tier 14

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Game Design Tip: Explore old MUDs

31 Thursday Jul 2025

Posted by abc in Game Design, Game dev, MUDs

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game creation, Game Design, Game dev, MUD, MUDs

MUDs are the text-based precursor to MMOs and there are thousands littered across the internet – some even have hundreds of players!

Without the limitations of graphics, the systems can get quite intricate and the pared-down text interface helps expose the workings of these mechanics. It’s easy to figure out how game dev objects work once you interact with Iron Realms crafting, for example, where you enter descriptive text for every situation a player might encounter.

Links (but don’t just go by the top games, some ancient abandoned games have interesting ideas as well!):

– /r/MUD
– http://www.mudconnect.com/
– https://www.topmudsites.com/

Some of my personal favorites for game design inspiration:

– New Moon. Has fun NPC design, like arresting players (complete with jailbreak attempts) and different day/night behaviour. Very responsive to command-based exploration. http://eclipse.cs.pdx.edu/

–  Iron Realms Entertainment. Company that runs several polished, staffed games. Lots of complex systems like intricate combat, sea/spacefaring, puzzle quests. https://www.ironrealms.com/

– Avalon: the Legend Lives. Big historic game, was the first online multiplayer rpg. Mostly abandoned and buggy these days, but it has some very interesting ideas. The economy/warfare system in particular is fabulously designed, with constant tension and resource management ensuring player cities always want to skirmish for power. The war system got an update that made it REALLY complex, but there might be docs online of the older, more elegant version.  https://www.avalon-rpg.com/

***Important note***: this post was originally written a few years ago – Avalon is now offline, which is a fucking shame because it should be documented for video game history.

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First experience with Overcooked 2

11 Friday Jul 2025

Posted by abc in General Thoughts, MUDs

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admiration, duos, Funny, humor, love, MUD, MUDs, newb moments, overcooked, real life, relationships, silly things, text game, Text games

Wikipedia

Official website

Bought this game on sale (or maybe through PS+?) months and months ago, when we went on a binge of looking at couples’ games to get. Hadn’t played it after that, though, but the other day husband saw that RDR2 went on PS+ so we went through our library to figure out what we could delete and we saw this downloaded and I said “Oh, let’s save this for a date night.”

Yesterday, I walked into the living room and my head tilted – the music for my husband’s sounded far more…whimsical than I thought RDR2 would be. The music, actually, instantly captured my attention. It was soft, enticing, indie, almost off-key in that music box way and I came over to see what he had loaded up. I couldn’t help it! I was instantly intrigued by the sound design because it suggested a certain type of game, which the art reinforced. There’s great coherence here in presenting an experience, especially when you learn it’s co-op.

It was an unexpected surprise, but a welcome one. How cute is it to have your SO seduce you with a game?

The first cut scene was adorable. We love pun-based humor and also enjoy cooking together, so the overall theme and writing appeal to us. I settled back, thinking this was going to be a cute little coop story game where I basically mashed a few buttons to help out my hubby.

lolno

It started great but cut to learning how to make rice and our entire – and I mean entire – kitchen is on fire. I apparently thought I could put them out by dashing at them. Meanwhile, I had also picked up the fire extinguisher, thinking it was chopped tuna, and put it on a plate.

This game ramps up QUICKLY, but the failures are fun and memorable.

At this point, I’ll diverge to talk a bit about memory.

There’s been some interesting research done into how our memories work and there seems to be some evidence to show that we remember bad memories in more detail that we do good ones.

https://www.livescience.com/1827-bad-memories-stick-good.html

There’s ALSO been research done to show that couples bond and retain bonds when they make new memories together.

Think back to your own gaming history – what do you remember the most? The time you got first or the time you ALMOST got first?

My husband literally just came by, read this, and whispered “Don’t pull the lever!” – we met in a MUD and our most memorable experience was when he was taking me to get a super important quest done. Like he had prepped the start for this quest ending for hours, setting up all the details.

And all we had to do was pull a lever to finish the quest. The thing was, the lever needed to pulled at the exactly specific time. He told me “don’t pull the lever” and so all I could think about was pulling the lever to see what it did.

I pulled the fucking lever, ladies and gents, and it did… nothing. My future husband was like “Did you seriously just pull the fucking lever?” and I was like “yeah, sorry, you just made me really curious about the fucking lever…”

This was a crux moment.

And this is when I decided I was going to marry this man, because he was like…. “Welp, that sucks and here is why:” and he proceeded to tell me what the lever did and why pulling it was a bad thing and then he was like “on retrospect, I should have opened with that.” And I knew, just knew, yep, that’s my husband.

Instead of raging at me or making me feel bad, he explained and then **immediately** started teasing me about it, to the point that it’s a joke he mentions as part of the “how we met” spiel.

Pick someone who explains what the lever does instead of being mad that you pulled it, right?

BAD MEMORIES MAKE FOR THE MOST MEMORABLE MOMENTS!

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So I flipped 6500 cards of omens last night

11 Friday Jul 2025

Posted by abc in Gold

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economy, garrison, gold, inscription, multibox, old content, starter account, WoW

Let’s get the raw numbers just out there – total profit: 35,000

It’s obviously not a great income stream.

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I used to multibox (not the druid spam moon fire, just multiple accounts doing different things at once) and now I’ve got 3 extra accounts I’m leaving on free and seeing what I can do with them while I play my main. I’m sitting on a free month due to recruit a friend (which I highly recommend if you’re playing more than one account, you get free game time) so I’m currently playing with ways to make money with these other accounts I have with minimal investment before I resub.

This honestly doesn’t seem too bad, combined with my panda farms and transmutes. It’ll add up and when I finally sub that account it’ll be free gold.

—

Now, for the nuance!

First, let’s talk about card of omens…

This is a card you can make with Draenor inscription. Flipping (eg using a cast to use it) generates another card which you can sell. The sell prices range from coppers to thousands of gold – it’s basically gambling, crafter-style.

Crafting it requires War Paints which you can craft once each day as your Draenor cooldown as an inscription crafter.

Spirit of War:

Here’s where it gets fun because I obviously didn’t wait 6500 days…

Once you have a level 3 town hall, a traveling merchant will appear in rotation potentially each day. They will sell a pattern to make War Paints at will using primal spirits…and also let you trade raw comms for primal spirits.

Example merchant: Nicholas, herbs

Note: even if it’s not your profession trader, you can still do the weekly quest for primal spirits AND trade in excess mats for primal spirits. This means you can trade in all that ore from your mine, for example!

So, once you have these grabbed, you’ll want to maximize your passive primal spirit generation – this means shipyard missions as there are often ship missions which give 50 primal spirits.

If you’re going fully passive generation (I accrued these mats for the 6500 cards just from missions and daily CD), you’ll want to focus on buffing your Inn to let you recruit extra resources: your goal is to have extreme scavenger and scavenger stacked as traits on most of your followers – this will let you rack up tons of resources which you can cash in for mats at the Trading Post. Once you level your Inn, you can recruit a follower each week with a trait you select, so this will let you focus on generating resources.


Notes:

– starter accounts can stock up to prepare for this. They CANNOT use the primal spirit trade as they can’t access the higher level garrison needed.

– it’s basically all free passive mats. If you want to grind this, primal spirits can be obtained through killing rares in Draenor but I don’t suggest that method for a starter account as it’s tedious, slow and unreliable. Better to focus on panda farms and xmute. See my other posts about old expansion money making: garrison, general, living steel

– using a mage or shaman lets you time warp to speed up flips. Any haste buff will speed up flip cast time!

– all flipped cards you don’t have room for will go to mailbox. Mailbox will also reach max (unsure if there is overflow protection here), so you can go afk and “loot” mailbox for a bit

– free accounts can use the mine to quickly gather more resources to increase potential trade ins (use the trading post work order when it’s ore to generate more garrison resources)

– this is straight gold, eg no reliance of auctions selling, which is a nice guarantee if you have limited time to make stockpiled gold conversion count (eg getting a few days free via a request)

– You need to wait to subscribe before you do the flip spam as starter accounts have a gold max. Save up the mats to do this for your push to get a token during subbed time. You can sometimes get a free few days by asking nicely via a support ticket and spamming craft/flip can get you a decent way towards a token.

Summary:

If you’re like me (and I doubt you are because why would you be, I’m a bit crazy trying this out) and have several extra accounts set to free, this seems like a decent potential way to stock away a burst of gold influx for a token.

I don’t advise this for anyone actually leveled and strong at the game but for people trying to eke by on free accounts, it might be a decent way to stockpile potential gold for that month when you sub the account.

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A fun blurb of roleplay that’s definitely not about butts

31 Tuesday Dec 2024

Posted by abc in MUDs

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Funny, MUD, MUDs, Roleplay, Roleplaying, Text games

I wanted to make my donkey go away all cool like, so I thought I’d like…kick it to shoo it off…
You leap into the air and launch a flying kick at a donkey.
You have scored an ANNIHILATING CRITICAL hit!!!
Damage done: 1500, blunt.
A grey wolf springs to a donkey’s defence.
A venomous forest snake springs to a donkey’s defence.
A cunning red fox springs to a donkey’s defence.
A small, brown lemming springs to a donkey’s defence.
A grumpy badger springs to a donkey’s defence.
An ebony raven springs to a donkey’s defence.
A gossamer butterfly springs to a donkey’s defence.
The final blow proves too much for a donkey, who expires, pitifully.
You have slain a donkey.
A donkey, your loyal companion, has been slain by Moirean Seirath.
A rush of energy fills you as you feel ready to deliver a devastating blow upon your next target.

You say, “…damnit.”

(Market): You say, “Seeking someone skilled in the arts of donkey revival.”

Ison tells you, “((oh geez, what did you do now))”

Darliea tells you, “I assume you don’t mean something akin to “slice up its organs and place them in a jar”.”

You sniffle softly.

Amara peers around herself in confusion. “Who is that crying?” she asks with a frown.

With a hiccuping cough, you say, “Can you bring Trouble back?”

“Trouble?” Amara asks, plainly not understanding. “I can… try… but why would you want trouble?” she blurts.

You have emoted: A cloaked figure pushes the corpse of a donkey close towards the tear, the dead beast’s hoof dangling woefully down to splash limply at the water. She scoots along beside him, her hood falling away to reveal mournful, Impish features.

Amara finds the usual placid expression on her face crumbling into sadness as she watches you try to ress the limp creature. “Oh dear,” she breathes, plainly sympathetic. “May I see him? I cannot promise anything, but I am most certainly willing to try,” she offers with a sad timbre to her voice.

You have emoted: Softly stroking the dead donkey’s mane, Moirean blinks up at you through red, swollen, tear-filled eyes. “My ass is Trouble,” she explains, underlining her words with a loud, honking sniffle.

Amara blinks and makes a rather odd choking noise while extending her hands toward your ass and explains gently, “I will have to touch it to try to fix it.”

You have emoted: Moirean bends down onto her knees and tries to push the donkey towards you, both hands pressing against its haunches as she puts her whole weight into moving the creature. Her feet dig furrows in the damp grass and she eventually gives up, breathing deeply as she slumps over the slain corpse. “You might need to get close,” she explains, wiping at a dribbling trail of snotty tears (it only smears them more across her face). “My ass is too big to move, I think.”

You have emoted: Moirean bursts out bawling, eyes squeezing shut.

Amara offers the bawling you a quick and somewhat leery pat of comfort, her hands moving quickly toward the dropping thing. “Here, let me, your ass is not so big…” she offers agreeably, kneeling down to be within reach.

You have emoted: Her sobs only increase in volume at the touch. “It is!” Moirean wails, tears streaming down her cheeks. She hiccups again, and coughs, shaking her head. “No,” she objects to herself. “WAS. Big enough for at least three to ride, but now…”

With a more quiet whimper, you say, “….broken…”

“Miss Moirean,” Amara interrupts with no small measure of empathy in her voice. “I can assure you that your poor, broken down ass is… WAS… not too big for me to handle!” she finishes quickly, hoisting the ass in question with all her strength as she struggles to stand beneath its barely-bearable weight.

Amara sways on her feet, her stature somewhat diminished by the sheer size of your ass.

You have emoted: Moirean gasps at your sudden movement, sitting back on her heels and wiping at her tears with dirt-smudged hands. “You sure you know how to handle an ass?” she asks, watching nervously as your weight shifts.

Amara grunts, nodding her head. “Your ass is… safe… with me!” she groans whilst her knees almost buckle. Somehow, she manages to gather the light of healing within her overladen hands, running them gently over the limp, droopy ass, attempting to restore firmness and life, but nothing seems to happen.

You have emoted: Moirean frowns as she watches, biting her lip. “Is it tapped out?” she offers, attempting to be helpful, as she gestures vaguely behind you. “Your devotion….”

“I may not have enough to tap this here ass,” Amara admits, sounding defeated, her words punctuated by the panting of her strenuous efforts.

You have emoted: Your words prompt another round of tears from Moirean and she softly, mournfully mumbles, “That ass. That ass.”

You have emoted: Moirean bows her head and pulls her knees to her chest, curls obscuring her face.

Amara groans as her hands flare with the last bedraggled tendrils of devotion, but just as quickly they fizzle out. “I.. I am so sorry, Moirean. This has never happened to me before,” she mumbles, embarrassed at her premature finish which fails to evoke the merest twitch from your ass. She sinks once more to her knees in humble defeat.

Words muffled by her sniffles, you say, “My ass is grass. Dust. Bones.”

Turning away, you say, “Thank you for trying.”

“Moirean, we can get you a new ass. A better ass. A stronger ass. We have the means,” Amara offers softly.

You have emoted: Moirean shakes her head, replying, “I think I want a pony, instead.”

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Living steel

08 Thursday Sep 2022

Posted by abc in Gold, World of Warcraft

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This is an easy way to obtain a lot of trillium (and living steel).

On a gatherer, set your hearthstone to your faction’s Pandaria capital city.

Fly around and gather (gathering resets the nodes in the area) until you find a golden lotus node. Harvest – note the buff it gives you! For 15 minutes, anything you kill has a chance to drop a treasure chest, which has a high chance of containing ghost iron, black/white trillium and spirits of harmony.

Head to Loremasters and queue for LFR. Clear trash up to first boss. Leave raid, reset, rinse and repeat. The large packs mean you will get tons of treasure chests.

Smelt trillium and ghost iron, send that + spirits of harmony to your alchemist with transmute spec (for extra procs). Turn ghost iron into trillium, turn trillium + SoH into living steel using riddle of steel (or do this every now and then and always have a nice stockpile for daily transmute).

This is infinitely repeatable as long as you don’t kill any bosses in HoF – with LFR, you will hit a limit of number of times you can enter. The biggest bottleneck is finding golden lotus nodes. Augment it with the Halfhill farm for easy daily trillium and/or SoH. I usually do a lap after doing my farm – the monkey village, bamboo forest west of halfhill and Kun Lai summit are all node rich and this path will let you get a kill in on Sha of Fear as well as some rare kills. You’ll also get a ton of lesser charms which you can convert into bonus rolls.

Bonus optimisation options:

– Darkmoon fire-water for increased gathering speed
– Pandaria herb gathering speed bonus gloves (chance to drop from rares). I am pretty sure this stacks with fire-water, but haven’t properly tested, I just know it’s hella fast with both. Edit: these do NOT stack
– Mist-veiled goggles (MoP engineering craft) to see extra nodes
– Ancient Pandaren mining pick (from Jade forest mine) for free gems when hitting ore nodes (unsure if this is still obtainable)
– +speed gear set + bear tartare + druid for movement speed to make trash farming faster

If you just want ghost iron, head west of Shrine of Two Moons until you find the area where quillian spawn in an endless swarm. Kill them, mine them. You don’t need to move, just lay down aoe and mine. I prefer a paladin for this as consecration basically instakills everything running by.

Any other good tips?

Update Sept 2022:

– Make sure to harvest herbs as you go. Harvesting a herb clears it out so golden lotus can spawn – golden lotus has a random chance to appear when each node repopulates. DE-populating the nodes by harvesting them forces them to repopulate. If you don’t harvest, then you are just hunting for existing ones, which are much more rare.

– If you have multiple accounts, you can fly around together (eg vial of sands mount) and both harvest the nodes, which makes golden lotus spawn 2x, 3x (X = characters) as fast. Logging out preserves the buff!

– You can use LFR for trash. I don’t know if the raid/LFR is quicker.

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Pet arbitrage

08 Thursday Sep 2022

Posted by abc in Gold, World of Warcraft

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Hiya, here’s an easy guide to setting up selling pets on multiple servers!

1. Optional: Make a vulpera. This isn’t mandatory, but it makes it SO much easier. They spawn with some gold to cover listing fees and they have extra bag space. They also spawn at the back of Org, close to AH and bank.

2. Optional: when spawned, run to the Tauren AH area (nice close bank/AH). Stop at the enchanting trainer and learn enchanting and buy the strange dust/lesser magic essence from the mats merchant. These can be sold for seed money.

3. Cage extra pets. Useful macros, can run these as moving to Ah area (they won’t dismount you):

Cage for sale (this macro cages any pets you have 3 of, leaving 2 behind. You can tweak it to your preference, eg sub 2 for 1 to cage any pets above 1):
/run local t,p,j={},{},C_PetJournal for i=1,j.GetNumPets() do p={j.GetPetInfoByIndex(i)} t[p[2]]=(t[p[2]] or 0)+1 if t[p[2]]>2 and p[16] and p[1] then j.CagePetByID(p[1]) return end end

Add to journal (this will fail if it hits journal full for a pet, so put extra pets at the very bottom on your inventory) :
/use pet cage

TSM:
Use TUJGlobalMean to price pets based on overall region prices. This lets you buy pets cheaply on one region and sell them for a profit on other regions. You will need the undermine journal addon for this price source.


Seed money tips:

– Use TSM “vendor” search to buy/sell items listed lower than vendor price
– Sell enchanting mats from vendor
– Buy and DE cheapo greens and sell mats
– Buy/smelt ores and sell bars
– Mail guild tabard: buy cost is 250g, sell cost is around 60g. You eat a loss but can essentially transfer money to another server to finance posting auctions.

Strategy:

– Buy pets listed heavily below regional prices and relist on other servers. You’ll begin to notice patterns, such as farmers flooding a server market and listing a ton of the same pet for cheap or timewalking driving down the cost of pets associated with turnin area (example: Bemax during Pandaria timewalking, price will tank and then slowly rise once Timeless Isle is less common to visit).
– Augment with pets you create via crafting.
– Keep an ear out for content creators sharing farming tips. These pets will tank in price as people jump on the bandwagon and will go up in value once a new farm becomes popular.
– Learn which pets are bought from vendors and avoid these. As the supply is constant, their price will not fluctuate as much and one dedicated idiot can keep the price low. Place an alt at vendors to easily keep them supplied for yourself.
– Buy FOMO and timegated pets during events which make them common, eg holidays or Darkmoon Faire. Resell later when they are temporarily unobtainable and price has gone up.
– Create a pet dungeon alt to farm rare pets for resale. Legion petshop in Dalaran will let you easily teleport alts to pet dungeons if you’ve already cleared them, just talk to the NPC in the pet shop for a teleport. This will let you easily set up an alt at each pet dungeon entrance (pick Legion for Chromie time and do the intro quests/scenario). These are some of the most expensive pets, but will have lower sale rates so spreading them among multiple servers is really useful.

Useful crafted pets:

– Pandaria engineering dragonling
– WoD garrison elekk plushie
– WoD garrison engineering pets
– Enchanting lantern


Any other tips and hints to share about this method of gold making?

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Middleman

08 Thursday Sep 2022

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As a crafting middleman, you basically are supplying other crafters with what they need. You’re the dude making sure there are enchanting mats on the AH or the gal offering end results of annoying assemblies.

Your goal in this role is to basically turn raw mats and items into stuff people want to pay for.

For example, for enchanting, search for weapon or armor and sort by price. Buy anything under 1-5g, as a rule of thumb – the expansion the item sources from will affect value. Cataclysm breakdowns, for example, are more rare while nobody wants spirit dust from Pandaria. You can almost always disenchant the mats for a profit or snag some transmog to flip. You can do this with the base AH UI very quickly (TSM chugs too hard on my computer for searches as big as this).

(Side note: The next step to making this loop self sustainable is using your own production skill to produce the things to DE, eg making a bunch of bracers with a tailor to DE for dust. This is what’s known as a shuffle)

You can apply this same concept to ores: you’re taking one thing and crafting it to add value. Buy cheap ores, smelt them to sell more expensive bars.

With tailoring, you have stuff like enchanted frostweave, soulcloth, basically turning mats into more valuable mats. Leatherworking lets you upgrade hides. Enchanting + Shadowlands legendaries is a great example of this middle market.

Herb fragments, leather scraps, ore nuggets, shattering enchanting mats, etc can all work with this concept – you can often sell or use them, once transformed. Do the math – sometimes things sell for very inflated values.

Be aware that there is a limit to when the crafting middle market mats stops becoming profitable. For some things, people won’t pay a middleman for – they might make those mats themselves as part of the end goal of their crafting or the process to make it is so easy that it’s not worth your time.

Also learn which mats help boost this sort of crafter. For example, a bunch of frozen orbs cheap on the AH means you get to make a ton of different cloth. Someone dumping a ton of crystals means DE profit. Timewalking dungeons means X ore, cloth, elemental is super common atm. Etc.

In addition to making money, playing this role will teach you about the flow of mats from raw to crafted, which are very important concepts to understand if you want to tackle goldmaking on a larger scale.

This will not make you tons of gold, but it will make you consistent gold.

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Garrison

08 Thursday Sep 2022

Posted by abc in Gold, World of Warcraft

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2nd account, economy, garrison, gold, old content, starter account, WoW

Ok so these are really old but there is still profit to be made via using resources. How? Well that come comes down to your choice of skills. I’m just going to tackle optimising resource gain, so we can talk about tradeskills in comments.

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/garrisons/buildings/guide-to-the-garrison-lunarfall-inn-frostwall-tavern

Ok so:

–  Inn to level 3. This gives you the huge resource missions

– Inn to level 2. This lets you recruit followers each RL week. You want to recruit for the extreme scavenger trait. Select a green follower instead of blue ones – getting two traits sounds fun until you realise you have locked into a nonoptimal trait. Your endgoal is scavenger AND extreme scavenger as follower traits. Unless that blue follower has both (and it can be procced, just got one with both from my Inn this week!) pass over them to get more rolls at scavenger as a secondary trait.

– Also Inn: if you want transmog, you need to do the quests given here. You can complete these quests in WoD Timewalking as well as by soloing them. Timewalking makes it easy to be lazy.

– Salvage yard to level 3. This takes a quest to unlock. Worth it. This gives you a chance for drops on missions. These drops give extra resources, follower upgrades (very much needed with the push you are doing via Inn) and extra coin via DE/vendor.

– Stables to 1. You only need it at level 1 to get action while mounted, which is the huge benefit it gives. While in your garrison you aren’t dismounted while doing actions like farming herbs.

– Ogre tower to level 2+. This unlocks work orders – mage tower work orders create rush orders for your comm producing buildings. This is NOT self sustaining, and you will need to go farm ogre waystones now and then. Fortunately there is a LFR queue mob right next to where you gather your resources. Highmaul is the LFR for these tokens, alternatively go fly there and AoE for a bit. This one is an elective…build it because you have space but do a tiny bit of work now and then to keep it maintained. It basically just adds to your income.

– Trading post at minimum level 1 for alt trades. Check what is cheap, sell/craft.

– Herb garden + mines: gives xp up to level 50, so a great option for passive leveling while building gold. Can use seeds to buy a pet to resell.

-Lumber mill: a good option for raw resource generation, I only advise if on alt and actively leveling through WoD. This setup involves active collection but it can be really nice to boost early resource generation.

– Holidays: look into using Holidays, eg I have turned in Halloween tokens to spawn spiders which means I have a boss up constantly which gives a potential valuable drop.

– Trader: if you have a level 3 garrison, each week you’ll get a trader. You can move to an alt’s garrison to capitalise on this, if you have 2 accounts, eg using a herb trader instead of a fur trader. The trader will ask for resources which you can trade for primal spirits. This lets you easily exchange excess resources for primal spirits, which can be used for purchasing mats or accelerating tradeskills.

– Wandering vendors may visit you. Depending on your server, the items they sell may have resell value.

– Battle pets setup lets you farm token and stones.

I am writing this off the top of my head, so I expect I’ve forgotten stuff. Please chime in with details!

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Old content

08 Thursday Sep 2022

Posted by abc in Gold, World of Warcraft

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2nd account, economy, garrison, gold, mists of Pandaria, multibox, old content, pandaria, second account, starter account

Wrote this up for a comment, thought I’d share as a whole post. Here’s what I can think up off the top of my head. Please share your own suggestions!

If you don’t have Shadowlands, I suggest trying several of the following – the key is diversifying into different markets, as old world stuff sells more slowly. This is meant to be a jumping off point, not an exhaustive guide, so you’ll notice a lot of the suggestions involve further research on your own part.


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*Daily Chores*:


– **Pandaria farm**: this takes a few days to set up, but you can grow mats each day. There is also a rare chance for a cageable pet to spawn. You can sell the mats raw or smelt the ore into bars or transmute it into trillium/living steel, or use it to craft items to sell. Engineering has a lot of evergreen items.

– **Garrison**: this also takes a little setup. You get passive resources and node spawns each day and you can use those resources to buy comms. You can sell the comms or use the profession buildings + profession cooldowns to make pets, goblin glider kits, toys, bags, transmog gear, drums or cards of omen (each one is randomly worth values from copper to thousands of gold). The menagerie unlocks daily pet battles for tokens, while the herb garden lets you gather seeds for a pet you can sell. The mines also have a potential pet drop, but you can’t upgrade past level 2 (that removes the mobs it drops from). See this post for tips on maximizing resource generation: https://wp.me/sON4N-garrison

– **Mission tables** from Legion and BfA. These still have some rewards but they are more of a background supplement versus something to focus on.

– **Crafting cooldowns and transmutes**. A lot of more profitable stuff is locked behind these (eg tailoring’s imperial silk) or they create valuable items (eg living steel). Consider making several characters to have multiple cooldowns available per day.


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*Farming*:


– **Golden lotus buff**: picking a golden lotus in Pandaria will give you a buff for 15 minutes that gives a chance for a loot box on a kill. When you get the buff, travel to the Lorewalkers (near your faction’s city, there’s a person who will fly you up to them if you don’t have flying) and queue for Heart of Fear LFR. Clear the entry transh, leave raid, queue again, etc, until buff runs out. This will give you lots of Pandaria mats to sell or craft with. See this for more details: https://wp.me/pON4N-eg


– **Cataclysm herbs, ore, volatiles, enchanting mats**. These are used in the vial of the sands mount and enchanting and are in constant lowish demand. You can use the Cataclysm potion of treasure finding to obtain extra drops while farming mobs, similar to the golden lotus buff, and the Bastion of Twilight’s entry is the best place to farm with it.


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*Crafting*:



– **Mage tower, twink, farming gear**. Look at which items can have a crafter’s mark applied to make them legion-level and craft ones which will benefit someone in the mage tower. Look for set bonuses and gem slots. Apply the same logic to level 20 players (xp locked twink bracket). These won’t sell super fast but they do sell and there tends not to be a ton of competition.

– **Mage tower, twink, heirloom, farming enchants/item enhancements**. Heirloom ones will sell the most, but these all sell. You’ll need to do research and look at sale rates to decide which ones to make.

– **Mage tower, leveling, farming buffs**. Things like drums, scrolls, certain potions and flasks, certain foods like bear tartare. You’ll have to figure out which ones sell and don’t have a lot of competition.

– **Crafting/farming transmog.** You need to have a ton to see high returns, but it doesn’t hurt to add it to your mix if you find or make it easily. I suggest using a second auction alt for this so you can just skip it for a few days if you’re not in the mood to post all the listings.

– **Old glyphs**. Check your unlearned tab. There are a ton of ways to learn how to make new glyphs and these sell for much higher than the ones everyone learns by default.

– **Other old crafting:** lots of older stuff does still sell. Pets, mounts and toys sell the best, but there are also slow sales for things like contracts, pet name change, bags (especially the larger profession ones). Check sale rates of items. Obtaining more rare or gated recipes will give you access to more profitable items. Check your unlearned tab.

– **Shuffling and transforming mats**. For example, buying a bunch of super cheap cloth, crafting something cheap like bracers, and then disenchanting to sell or use the enchant mats. Transforming might be something like creating enchanted leather or turning light leather into heavy leather. You can also buy cheap greens to disenchant. This will involve research into different material values to determine what’s currently profitable on your AH. See this post for more details about being a crafting middleman: https://wp.me/pON4N-ed



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*Quests, Exploration, Dungeons*:



– **Legion archaeology quest**. Gives a grey worth 5k, can do this on each character and with allied races you can start at level 10, pick Legion Chromie time, skip the intro, hearth to Dalaran and begin the quest in a few minutes. You won’t have flying, though, so the quest will be a slog on a newbie without a 2nd account to help. This quest only shows up in rotation, so it might not be up. Quest: https://www.wowhead.com/quest=41174/worth-its-weight

– **Rare recipe/item resale**. Some vendors sell recipes or items which appear only rarely. You can usually resell these on the AH for some profit.

– **Rare hunting**. Get an add-on like Silver Dragon and check out rares you see on your map. Killing these usually rewards you with something and sometimes those somethings are profitable to resell or useful (eg faster harvesting gloves in Pandaria).

– **BfA island expeditions**. Drops transmog, pets.

– **Old dungeons/raids**. This will net you mats, greens, blues, purples, soulbound items you can DE, maybe pets or mounts…. Basically just think about ways to maximize profit after doing old content, such as by turning the results into enchants or a crafted pet to sell. ***In general, items that are crafted sell for more but sell more slowly than the raw mats.***

– **Pet battle daily quests.** This takes a lot of setup to unlock, but there are pet battle quest chains for each continent. Once finished you unlock daily pet battle quests for that region. Quest completion gives you a bag of pet supplies which can include pets and tokens to buy pets.

– **Fishing**. There are a few ways to make money with fishing, such as fishing up volatile fire outside Firelands. Research which fishing items can be profitable.

– **Archaeology**. This one is rough, but the vial of the sands does sell for a lot. It’s just takes a LOT of work to get. Research the Lorewalkers and Klaxxi trick to make it easier. More casually, it’s a great profession to snag on an alt if you enjoy leveling casually or exploring a lot. You get extra xp as you level and you can sell keystones on the AH if you aren’t interested in leveling it up. You can also exchange fossil fragments at the Darkmoon Faire.

– **Garrison Auction House Pieces**: These can be farmed from specific places in WoD. They are a fairly slow seller but they sell for a few thousand, more if you have enough to assemble a module.

– **WoD Pickpocket Daily**: Look into the quest chain with Griftah. Rewards around 2k gold.

– **Legion Pickpocket Weekly**: rewards 5k gold.


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*Hubs, Events*:



– **Dalaran Underbelly.** There’s a variety of things to do here and you can buy recipes, pets, etc with the currency as well as elixir of tongues to resell.

– **Darkmoon Faire**. Tons of stuff to buy/earn and resell, most notably pets and transmog. Make sure to get inky black potion from the cannibal witch in the woods. Doing special events like Moonfang, the heavy metal show and the rabbit can get you more expensive things to sell.

– **Old Patch Hubs**. Pretty much every one of these is deserted but has pets, recipes, toys, etc. It’s quick to blast through the dailies and gradually accumulate currency to buy things to resell. Examples: Argent Tournament, Molten Front

– **Holidays**. Every holiday creates a new temporary market for whatever people need for the event, as well as a way to earn items to resell like mounts or pets.

– **Timewalking**. Use Timewalking tokens to buy pets/toys to resell, increase rep (for factions you need access to for buying/selling their items) or buy mats to craft with or resell.


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*Other*:



– **AH Flipping**. This one takes lots of research and can be risky, but also profitable.

– **Pet Arbitrage**. This involves selling pets across multiple servers. See this post for more details; https://wp.me/pON4N-ef

– **Camping**. This is when you park an alt somewhere useful, such as where Poseidus spawns, the clickable nest for [leaping hatchling](https://www.warcraftpets.com/wow-pets/beast/raptors/leaping-hatchling/) or a vendor who sells something rare.

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