Living steel

08 Thursday Sep 2022

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This is an easy way to obtain a lot of trillium (and living steel).

On a gatherer, set your hearthstone to your faction’s Pandaria capital city.

Fly around and gather (gathering resets the nodes in the area) until you find a golden lotus node. Harvest – note the buff it gives you! For 15 minutes, anything you kill has a chance to drop a treasure chest, which has a high chance of containing ghost iron, black/white trillium and spirits of harmony.

Head to Loremasters and queue for LFR. Clear trash up to first boss. Leave raid, reset, rinse and repeat. The large packs mean you will get tons of treasure chests.

Smelt trillium and ghost iron, send that + spirits of harmony to your alchemist with transmute spec (for extra procs). Turn ghost iron into trillium, turn trillium + SoH into living steel using riddle of steel (or do this every now and then and always have a nice stockpile for daily transmute).

This is infinitely repeatable as long as you don’t kill any bosses in HoF – with LFR, you will hit a limit of number of times you can enter. The biggest bottleneck is finding golden lotus nodes. Augment it with the Halfhill farm for easy daily trillium and/or SoH. I usually do a lap after doing my farm – the monkey village, bamboo forest west of halfhill and Kun Lai summit are all node rich and this path will let you get a kill in on Sha of Fear as well as some rare kills. You’ll also get a ton of lesser charms which you can convert into bonus rolls.

Bonus optimisation options:

– Darkmoon fire-water for increased gathering speed
– Pandaria herb gathering speed bonus gloves (chance to drop from rares). I am pretty sure this stacks with fire-water, but haven’t properly tested, I just know it’s hella fast with both. Edit: these do NOT stack
– Mist-veiled goggles (MoP engineering craft) to see extra nodes
– Ancient Pandaren mining pick (from Jade forest mine) for free gems when hitting ore nodes (unsure if this is still obtainable)
– +speed gear set + bear tartare + druid for movement speed to make trash farming faster

If you just want ghost iron, head west of Shrine of Two Moons until you find the area where quillian spawn in an endless swarm. Kill them, mine them. You don’t need to move, just lay down aoe and mine. I prefer a paladin for this as consecration basically instakills everything running by.

Any other good tips?

Update Sept 2022:

– Make sure to harvest herbs as you go. Harvesting a herb clears it out so golden lotus can spawn – golden lotus has a random chance to appear when each node repopulates. DE-populating the nodes by harvesting them forces them to repopulate. If you don’t harvest, then you are just hunting for existing ones, which are much more rare.

– If you have multiple accounts, you can fly around together (eg vial of sands mount) and both harvest the nodes, which makes golden lotus spawn 2x, 3x (X = characters) as fast. Logging out preserves the buff!

– You can use LFR for trash. I don’t know if the raid/LFR is quicker.

Pet arbitrage

08 Thursday Sep 2022

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Hiya, here’s an easy guide to setting up selling pets on multiple servers!

1. Optional: Make a vulpera. This isn’t mandatory, but it makes it SO much easier. They spawn with some gold to cover listing fees and they have extra bag space. They also spawn at the back of Org, close to AH and bank.

2. Optional: when spawned, run to the Tauren AH area (nice close bank/AH). Stop at the enchanting trainer and learn enchanting and buy the strange dust/lesser magic essence from the mats merchant. These can be sold for seed money.

3. Cage extra pets. Useful macros, can run these as moving to Ah area (they won’t dismount you):

Cage for sale (this macro cages any pets you have 3 of, leaving 2 behind. You can tweak it to your preference, eg sub 2 for 1 to cage any pets above 1):
/run local t,p,j={},{},C_PetJournal for i=1,j.GetNumPets() do p={j.GetPetInfoByIndex(i)} t[p[2]]=(t[p[2]] or 0)+1 if t[p[2]]>2 and p[16] and p[1] then j.CagePetByID(p[1]) return end end

Add to journal (this will fail if it hits journal full for a pet, so put extra pets at the very bottom on your inventory) :
/use pet cage

TSM:
Use TUJGlobalMean to price pets based on overall region prices. This lets you buy pets cheaply on one region and sell them for a profit on other regions. You will need the undermine journal addon for this price source.

Seed money tips:

– Use TSM “vendor” search to buy/sell items listed lower than vendor price
– Sell enchanting mats from vendor
– Buy and DE cheapo greens and sell mats
– Buy/smelt ores and sell bars
– Mail guild tabard: buy cost is 250g, sell cost is around 60g. You eat a loss but can essentially transfer money to another server to finance posting auctions.

Strategy:

– Buy pets listed heavily below regional prices and relist on other servers. You’ll begin to notice patterns, such as farmers flooding a server market and listing a ton of the same pet for cheap or timewalking driving down the cost of pets associated with turnin area (example: Bemax during Pandaria timewalking, price will tank and then slowly rise once Timeless Isle is less common to visit).
– Augment with pets you create via crafting.
– Keep an ear out for content creators sharing farming tips. These pets will tank in price as people jump on the bandwagon and will go up in value once a new farm becomes popular.
– Learn which pets are bought from vendors and avoid these. As the supply is constant, their price will not fluctuate as much and one dedicated idiot can keep the price low. Place an alt at vendors to easily keep them supplied for yourself.
– Buy FOMO and timegated pets during events which make them common, eg holidays or Darkmoon Faire. Resell later when they are temporarily unobtainable and price has gone up.
– Create a pet dungeon alt to farm rare pets for resale. Legion petshop in Dalaran will let you easily teleport alts to pet dungeons if you’ve already cleared them, just talk to the NPC in the pet shop for a teleport. This will let you easily set up an alt at each pet dungeon entrance (pick Legion for Chromie time and do the intro quests/scenario). These are some of the most expensive pets, but will have lower sale rates so spreading them among multiple servers is really useful.

Useful crafted pets:

– Pandaria engineering dragonling
– WoD garrison elekk plushie
– WoD garrison engineering pets
– Enchanting lantern

Any other tips and hints to share about this method of gold making?

Middleman

08 Thursday Sep 2022

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As a crafting middleman, you basically are supplying other crafters with what they need. You’re the dude making sure there are enchanting mats on the AH or the gal offering end results of annoying assemblies.

Your goal in this role is to basically turn raw mats and items into stuff people want to pay for.

For example, for enchanting, search for weapon or armor and sort by price. Buy anything under 1-5g, as a rule of thumb – the expansion the item sources from will affect value. Cataclysm breakdowns, for example, are more rare while nobody wants spirit dust from Pandaria. You can almost always disenchant the mats for a profit or snag some transmog to flip. You can do this with the base AH UI very quickly (TSM chugs too hard on my computer for searches as big as this).

(Side note: The next step to making this loop self sustainable is using your own production skill to produce the things to DE, eg making a bunch of bracers with a tailor to DE for dust. This is what’s known as a shuffle)

You can apply this same concept to ores: you’re taking one thing and crafting it to add value. Buy cheap ores, smelt them to sell more expensive bars.

With tailoring, you have stuff like enchanted frostweave, soulcloth, basically turning mats into more valuable mats. Leatherworking lets you upgrade hides. Enchanting + Shadowlands legendaries is a great example of this middle market.

Herb fragments, leather scraps, ore nuggets, shattering enchanting mats, etc can all work with this concept – you can often sell or use them, once transformed. Do the math – sometimes things sell for very inflated values.

Be aware that there is a limit to when the crafting middle market mats stops becoming profitable. For some things, people won’t pay a middleman for – they might make those mats themselves as part of the end goal of their crafting or the process to make it is so easy that it’s not worth your time.

Also learn which mats help boost this sort of crafter. For example, a bunch of frozen orbs cheap on the AH means you get to make a ton of different cloth. Someone dumping a ton of crystals means DE profit. Timewalking dungeons means X ore, cloth, elemental is super common atm. Etc.

In addition to making money, playing this role will teach you about the flow of mats from raw to crafted, which are very important concepts to understand if you want to tackle goldmaking on a larger scale.

This will not make you tons of gold, but it will make you consistent gold.

Garrison

08 Thursday Sep 2022

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Ok so these are really old but there is still profit to be made via using resources. How? Well that come comes down to your choice of skills. I’m just going to tackle optimising resource gain, so we can talk about tradeskills in comments.

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/garrisons/buildings/guide-to-the-garrison-lunarfall-inn-frostwall-tavern

Ok so:

– Inn to level 3. This gives you the huge resource missions

– Inn to level 2. This lets you recruit followers each RL week. You want to recruit for the extreme scavenger trait. Select a green follower instead of blue ones – getting two traits sounds fun until you realise you have locked into a nonoptimal trait. Your endgoal is scavenger AND extreme scavenger as follower traits. Unless that blue follower has both (and it can be procced, just got one with both from my Inn this week!) pass over them to get more rolls at scavenger as a secondary trait.

– Also Inn: if you want transmog, you need to do the quests given here. You can complete these quests in WoD Timewalking as well as by soloing them. Timewalking makes it easy to be lazy.

– Salvage yard to level 3. This takes a quest to unlock. Worth it. This gives you a chance for drops on missions. These drops give extra resources, follower upgrades (very much needed with the push you are doing via Inn) and extra coin via DE/vendor.

– Stables to 1. You only need it at level 1 to get action while mounted, which is the huge benefit it gives. While in your garrison you aren’t dismounted while doing actions like farming herbs.

– Ogre tower to level 2+. This unlocks work orders – mage tower work orders create rush orders for your comm producing buildings. This is NOT self sustaining, and you will need to go farm ogre waystones now and then. Fortunately there is a LFR queue mob right next to where you gather your resources. Highmaul is the LFR for these tokens, alternatively go fly there and AoE for a bit. This one is an elective…build it because you have space but do a tiny bit of work now and then to keep it maintained. It basically just adds to your income.

– Trading post at minimum level 1 for alt trades. Check what is cheap, sell/craft.

– Herb garden + mines: gives xp up to level 50, so a great option for passive leveling while building gold. Can use seeds to buy a pet to resell.

-Lumber mill: a good option for raw resource generation, I only advise if on alt and actively leveling through WoD. This setup involves active collection but it can be really nice to boost early resource generation.

– Holidays: look into using Holidays, eg I have turned in Halloween tokens to spawn spiders which means I have a boss up constantly which gives a potential valuable drop.

– Trader: if you have a level 3 garrison, each week you’ll get a trader. You can move to an alt’s garrison to capitalise on this, if you have 2 accounts, eg using a herb trader instead of a fur trader. The trader will ask for resources which you can trade for primal spirits. This lets you easily exchange excess resources for primal spirits, which can be used for purchasing mats or accelerating tradeskills.

– Wandering vendors may visit you. Depending on your server, the items they sell may have resell value.

– Battle pets setup lets you farm token and stones.

I am writing this off the top of my head, so I expect I’ve forgotten stuff. Please chime in with details!

Old content

08 Thursday Sep 2022

Posted by abc in Gold, World of Warcraft

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2nd account, economy, garrison, gold, mists of Pandaria, multibox, old content, pandaria, second account, starter account

Wrote this up for a comment, thought I’d share as a whole post. Here’s what I can think up off the top of my head. Please share your own suggestions!

If you don’t have Shadowlands, I suggest trying several of the following – the key is diversifying into different markets, as old world stuff sells more slowly. This is meant to be a jumping off point, not an exhaustive guide, so you’ll notice a lot of the suggestions involve further research on your own part.

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*Daily Chores*:

– **Pandaria farm**: this takes a few days to set up, but you can grow mats each day. There is also a rare chance for a cageable pet to spawn. You can sell the mats raw or smelt the ore into bars or transmute it into trillium/living steel, or use it to craft items to sell. Engineering has a lot of evergreen items.

– **Garrison**: this also takes a little setup. You get passive resources and node spawns each day and you can use those resources to buy comms. You can sell the comms or use the profession buildings + profession cooldowns to make pets, goblin glider kits, toys, bags, transmog gear, drums or cards of omen (each one is randomly worth values from copper to thousands of gold). The menagerie unlocks daily pet battles for tokens, while the herb garden lets you gather seeds for a pet you can sell. The mines also have a potential pet drop, but you can’t upgrade past level 2 (that removes the mobs it drops from). See this post for tips on maximizing resource generation: https://wp.me/sON4N-garrison

– **Mission tables** from Legion and BfA. These still have some rewards but they are more of a background supplement versus something to focus on.

– **Crafting cooldowns and transmutes**. A lot of more profitable stuff is locked behind these (eg tailoring’s imperial silk) or they create valuable items (eg living steel). Consider making several characters to have multiple cooldowns available per day.

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*Farming*:

– **Golden lotus buff**: picking a golden lotus in Pandaria will give you a buff for 15 minutes that gives a chance for a loot box on a kill. When you get the buff, travel to the Lorewalkers (near your faction’s city, there’s a person who will fly you up to them if you don’t have flying) and queue for Heart of Fear LFR. Clear the entry transh, leave raid, queue again, etc, until buff runs out. This will give you lots of Pandaria mats to sell or craft with. See this for more details: https://wp.me/pON4N-eg

– **Cataclysm herbs, ore, volatiles, enchanting mats**. These are used in the vial of the sands mount and enchanting and are in constant lowish demand. You can use the Cataclysm potion of treasure finding to obtain extra drops while farming mobs, similar to the golden lotus buff, and the Bastion of Twilight’s entry is the best place to farm with it.

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*Crafting*:

– **Mage tower, twink, farming gear**. Look at which items can have a crafter’s mark applied to make them legion-level and craft ones which will benefit someone in the mage tower. Look for set bonuses and gem slots. Apply the same logic to level 20 players (xp locked twink bracket). These won’t sell super fast but they do sell and there tends not to be a ton of competition.

– **Mage tower, twink, heirloom, farming enchants/item enhancements**. Heirloom ones will sell the most, but these all sell. You’ll need to do research and look at sale rates to decide which ones to make.

– **Mage tower, leveling, farming buffs**. Things like drums, scrolls, certain potions and flasks, certain foods like bear tartare. You’ll have to figure out which ones sell and don’t have a lot of competition.

– **Crafting/farming transmog.** You need to have a ton to see high returns, but it doesn’t hurt to add it to your mix if you find or make it easily. I suggest using a second auction alt for this so you can just skip it for a few days if you’re not in the mood to post all the listings.

– **Old glyphs**. Check your unlearned tab. There are a ton of ways to learn how to make new glyphs and these sell for much higher than the ones everyone learns by default.

– **Other old crafting:** lots of older stuff does still sell. Pets, mounts and toys sell the best, but there are also slow sales for things like contracts, pet name change, bags (especially the larger profession ones). Check sale rates of items. Obtaining more rare or gated recipes will give you access to more profitable items. Check your unlearned tab.

– **Shuffling and transforming mats**. For example, buying a bunch of super cheap cloth, crafting something cheap like bracers, and then disenchanting to sell or use the enchant mats. Transforming might be something like creating enchanted leather or turning light leather into heavy leather. You can also buy cheap greens to disenchant. This will involve research into different material values to determine what’s currently profitable on your AH. See this post for more details about being a crafting middleman: https://wp.me/pON4N-ed

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*Quests, Exploration, Dungeons*:

– **Legion archaeology quest**. Gives a grey worth 5k, can do this on each character and with allied races you can start at level 10, pick Legion Chromie time, skip the intro, hearth to Dalaran and begin the quest in a few minutes. You won’t have flying, though, so the quest will be a slog on a newbie without a 2nd account to help. This quest only shows up in rotation, so it might not be up. Quest: https://www.wowhead.com/quest=41174/worth-its-weight

– **Rare recipe/item resale**. Some vendors sell recipes or items which appear only rarely. You can usually resell these on the AH for some profit.

– **Rare hunting**. Get an add-on like Silver Dragon and check out rares you see on your map. Killing these usually rewards you with something and sometimes those somethings are profitable to resell or useful (eg faster harvesting gloves in Pandaria).

– **BfA island expeditions**. Drops transmog, pets.

– **Old dungeons/raids**. This will net you mats, greens, blues, purples, soulbound items you can DE, maybe pets or mounts…. Basically just think about ways to maximize profit after doing old content, such as by turning the results into enchants or a crafted pet to sell. ***In general, items that are crafted sell for more but sell more slowly than the raw mats.***

– **Pet battle daily quests.** This takes a lot of setup to unlock, but there are pet battle quest chains for each continent. Once finished you unlock daily pet battle quests for that region. Quest completion gives you a bag of pet supplies which can include pets and tokens to buy pets.

– **Fishing**. There are a few ways to make money with fishing, such as fishing up volatile fire outside Firelands. Research which fishing items can be profitable.

– **Archaeology**. This one is rough, but the vial of the sands does sell for a lot. It’s just takes a LOT of work to get. Research the Lorewalkers and Klaxxi trick to make it easier. More casually, it’s a great profession to snag on an alt if you enjoy leveling casually or exploring a lot. You get extra xp as you level and you can sell keystones on the AH if you aren’t interested in leveling it up. You can also exchange fossil fragments at the Darkmoon Faire.

– **Garrison Auction House Pieces**: These can be farmed from specific places in WoD. They are a fairly slow seller but they sell for a few thousand, more if you have enough to assemble a module.

– **WoD Pickpocket Daily**: Look into the quest chain with Griftah. Rewards around 2k gold.

– **Legion Pickpocket Weekly**: rewards 5k gold.

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*Hubs, Events*:

– **Dalaran Underbelly.** There’s a variety of things to do here and you can buy recipes, pets, etc with the currency as well as elixir of tongues to resell.

– **Darkmoon Faire**. Tons of stuff to buy/earn and resell, most notably pets and transmog. Make sure to get inky black potion from the cannibal witch in the woods. Doing special events like Moonfang, the heavy metal show and the rabbit can get you more expensive things to sell.

– **Old Patch Hubs**. Pretty much every one of these is deserted but has pets, recipes, toys, etc. It’s quick to blast through the dailies and gradually accumulate currency to buy things to resell. Examples: Argent Tournament, Molten Front

– **Holidays**. Every holiday creates a new temporary market for whatever people need for the event, as well as a way to earn items to resell like mounts or pets.

– **Timewalking**. Use Timewalking tokens to buy pets/toys to resell, increase rep (for factions you need access to for buying/selling their items) or buy mats to craft with or resell.

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*Other*:

– **AH Flipping**. This one takes lots of research and can be risky, but also profitable.

– **Pet Arbitrage**. This involves selling pets across multiple servers. See this post for more details; https://wp.me/pON4N-ef

– **Camping**. This is when you park an alt somewhere useful, such as where Poseidus spawns, the clickable nest for [leaping hatchling](https://www.warcraftpets.com/wow-pets/beast/raptors/leaping-hatchling/) or a vendor who sells something rare.

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